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The Future of Personal Digital Information – Scarce Resource, Valuable Commodity or an Efficient Utility?
My 'digital narrative' http://hi.im/eskoreinikainen
Reinikainen commented on posted to #OPEN2009 06.11.2009 (en)
some concepts i find interesting related to this presentation: Vendor Relationship Management and Information asymmetry
@Reinikainen: No. There's
@hyvaelama MA from humanities (HY) and MA from Media Lab (TAIK)
andreuchis commented on posted to #OPEN2009 06.11.2009 (en)
@juhak uh oh, I'm getting nervous now...
Reinikainen commented on posted to #OPEN2009 06.11.2009 (en)
Right now, our "personal" information seems to be distributed to different companies, like Qaiku's owner in this case, or Facebook, or MySpace, or IRC-galleria, and so on. I hope we will get to the point where the services like Facebook are only ways to access and manipulate the information itself, which remains in control of the owner. A unified (distributed) platform for storing personal data that different services can use to access and manipulate information concerning that user. Qaiku would be storing my comments on my server, and accessing them when needed... but of course, the problem is a lot more complex.
Of course, as a participant in other converstaions, I still need a way to control the data, narratives, that I have participated in. If someone allows me to participate, they are by implication giving me the part of the control, because everything in that participation also becomes my personal data. Both this Qaiku conversation and Jarno's presentation are now my personal data, irrelevat to who actually sent the messages! :)
need to use open standads so t don't get "trapped" in a single service/site
SPAM event around this tomorrow OpenWebHelsinki
@troppone: Very good point - privacy is a lot more complex ethical issue than it's often presented as. You might have an inherent right to privacy about your medical condition, but I also have a right to analyze whatever information I recieve about you, if you sneeze, I have an inherent right to know and distribute that information. And when that sneezing, with the help of technology, becomes medical analysis of your possible contagious diseases, based on the sneeze-drops that landed on me, this becomes pretty problematic...
@ikajaste i know some of ppl print out all their email, also the ones they compose themselves, to have a convenient(?) copy for themselves. In the digital world i can (at this time, we'll see about the future) make copies for myself. But this only solves the problem with material by me, not all information about me.
@juhak: Well, I sort of can't claim it as my own... But then again, I don't actually have Jarno's presentaition, I have my interpretation of what his presentation was about, which again is my own making. If I present the "same" stuff to someone else, they are already my thoughts, no matter that Jarno first told them to me.
At what point does his presentation become abstract information that I can claim as "my own"? What about information, a new presentation maybe, that I procude from the convergence of multiple previous presentations that I saw? It's a really problematic thing. :) I think the problem is within our concept of "owning" information, even in the sense of "attirbution". But then again, often the source is a very useful thing for the receiver to know...
@viilee: In a sense - and not as some theoretical concept, but in a very real sense - I do own every piece of information that has been transferred to me somehow, whether Jarno's presentation, or your user image. I think that to say otherwise, is misunderstanding the concept of information.
privacy right mitigation appears like one of the most actual [west] corp/legislative mistakes. This could be the matter..
DanieleBeta commented on posted to #OPEN2009 06.11.2009 (en)
"Paratiisi vai panoptikon" any english reference? @mace
your qaiku already appears at the 12th place in Google searching for "Paratiisi vai panoptikon"
Qaiku | #OPEN2009 | The Future of Personal Digital Information ...
@troppone Maybe ppl interested in this want to check the book Paratiisi vai panoptikon (toim. Päivikki Karhula). Available on the net for free. ...
www.qaiku.com/.../1decadd12966f46cadd11de8316ed83f2ede1dfe1df/ - 6 minutes ago - Similar
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DanieleBeta commented on posted to #OPEN2009 06.11.2009 (en)
@juhak, @viilee: I own this conversation and Jarno's presentation in the sense that I can replicate it, re-present it to other people, alter it, interpret it and use it as basis of my thoughts or even as bases for artefacts of my thoughts, for example an art project, or whatever.
In what sense do I not own it? I don't have the legal (or even moral?) right to re-present it in public or claim it as my own, in it's exact original form but I think that's a rather limited case of owning.
I am honestly interested in undestanding where the difference is in our thoughts about this matter. I want to understand your point.
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