#linux

wow.. is it really Linus in the pic ? ;-)

Yes it is. He's lost some weight :)

As someone said in comments section, Windows 7 is now approved by God. And because we can count on people not to understand sarcasm, Microsoft will probably use that pic for promotional purposes.

Damn, I totally missed that aspect. To me it was clear upon opening that image that it has some heavy humour included... oh well, I guess we'll get more laughs later :)

EDIT: Oh noes, the signs of "Linus sold out!" -mania already in the comments.

MmmMmm.. I felt I had to make a blog post, even if brief... ;-)

http://patchpanel.blogspot.com/2009/1...

I suspect that he cheated you from the beginning..

To be honest @Shrike, I think Linus has said this version of Windows is pretty good. For my own part, I'll keep my only windows box running XP, mainly cos there are no 7, or Vista drivers for my Ethernet card. Besides, I'm not really sure it's worth the money to me, as all the Windows software I use runs fine on XP and some of it, especially older versions of Adobe Creative Suites, won't run on 7. I didn't expect this comment to be so long when I started it, honest :)

@silner well, it's also, in my opinion, a matter of money. Here in Italy if you want to buy an UPGRADE to Win 7 you have to spend 129 EUROS (a lot more, if you want a full OS, not an upgrade). A bit too much, if you consider that the upgrade of Mac OS X 10.6 is just 29 EUROS...?

PS not too mention that the upgrade of Ubuntu is just 0 EUROS, as always ;)

@mcastel: Mac OS X 10.5->10.6 isn't really comparable as it's not meant to bring new stuff to users really.

I'll keep my winbox running XP aswell. The prices are ridiculous and I've no use for Win7.

What I was referring to were the comments, where it seemed a lot of people were screaming sellout and asking "who was paying" and "how much" for that image.
From what I've heard, Win7 is what Vista should've been and what was expected from XP. Looks like too little too late, but them having such a chokehold on the market, they'll probably tide it over just fine.

Didn't pre-order Win7, so probably wont upgrade any time soon. Only using it to run IE.

Actually, I've been using Win7 and Snow Leo side by side lately, and Win7 has had no errors, while Mac was needed to hardboot after refusing to go into sleep/stay awake. Afaik, this is a "feature" in snow leo, because I had no problem putting my iMac to sleep before I upgraded to snow leo.

But for Win 7 - best Windows, ever.

@lindstorm: I've heard of a few minor issues with this release of MacOS and ironically, it was meant to be a fixing release wasn't it?

@silner till now, I've not found any problem with Snow Leopard on my MacBook...

@mcastel: I've not used a Mac since 10.39, however long ago that was. I can't get back into the habit of paying since using Ubuntu :)

Win7 come up very smoothly on any pc, I tried an old pc ''Vista compatible'', a class actioned 64bit entry level and run, fast like IE too, as it wasn't since years. 64bit applications coexists with 32bit, free of problems, practically you have a Program Files(32 bit) and one normal 64bit. And a great start to move to the 64bit. About Device Drivers very good on both our pcs, I don't see any hardware upgrade as problem, also my pc is not new branded, I worked a bit seamless with the web camera but just just the same problem with Vista; I registered some troubles recognizing the cdrom, that one "now don't, now don't, now do..", not few.. but, considering the oem nature of these devices too, could be related to the first RTM leaks, maybe? Anyway, first, try it.. They will gift to me? :)

@silner I can understand, since I'm an Ubuntu user too... Well, I have also a MacBook from the last december, and after a period of initial "diffidence" (since I was a linux user from long times) I slowly came to appreciate several aspect of this environment (OS + related hardware, two close entities for Apple).

I have friends much more addicted to Mac than I am actually (I use Firefox and not Safari, I'm moving to Picasa becaus iPhoto is not free... etc), anyway I can't deny that at the moment I do feel it's rather good and usable platform... I was glad that the update to 10.6 was only 29EUROS (even if it was payed by my Institute...). I am not interested in paying 100 EUROS more to have my home pc updated to Win 7 (after the rollback to XP following a bad experience with Vista, I'll not move from XP for the life of that hardware...!)

That picture makes me want to photoshop Linus to different kinds of embarrasing not really thumb up situations ;-)

Don't know anything about Windows 7, but I always keep coming back to Linux (Ubuntu/Debian). Even on my Macbook Pro. I have realised that even the classic Windows Taskbar isn't the most intuitive application/window handling system. It's helluva better than Apple's Dock. Same applies for the OS X window manager. Those are the main reasons I use Mac Os X.

Kudos to Apple for the cheap "upgrade" price. The upgrade is pretty smooth, if you don't have any non-vanilla extensions or programs installed :)

And to hijack the thread: win7 banner

OK, it sounds like a discount for me..

WAIT, I talked with a robot - They give win7 out for 99 $ | £ | € to all!

@trm you're using linux on your Mac Book pro?

@mcastel Yep. At work. It's rev3,1 MBP. Works like a dream except F-keys :) Haven't found a way to enable them. Even wifi and power management works great. Other difficult part was the touchpad. Somehow I couldn't configure it for my usage correctly. It did suck on Mac Os X, too, but not so much:)

I did disk partitioning with Bootcamp and I booted Kubuntu cd normally and installed it normally. Trickiest part was installing Grub to linux partition and getting EFI -bootmanager ReFit to work :) I'm not sure, whether ReFit was necessary or not, but it's nice to have.

I had some troubles to configure keymap correctly, because I needed alt-key and alt-gr. It was something like dpkg-reconfigure locales-data or something like that:)

The only reason to boot to Mac Os X is the iPhone Emulator. Photoshop works nicely with Wine nowadays.

@trm right. But then, given that Mac is still a bit more expensive, is really a good move to buy it and use linux ? It's not better to buy a "normal" laptop instead? Ok, maybe a dumb question.. Just to understand... ;)

@mcastel: A lot of Mac buyers will tell you Macs have better hardware, but for the money, I'm not so sure.

@mcastel, @silner AFAIK mostly Macs use pretty standard Intel-based hardware. Sure, chassis design may be better depending on what you like.

I wouldn't get a Mac to run Linux. There are better and cheaper options.

@mandrl somebody told me that MacBook was the best hardware for running early Windows Vista as all the MS people were testing with that laptop...

@bergie, in my book "runs a beta version of Windows Vista" is not a merit. ;-)

Nevertheless apples are shining, time is mature to think to "pears"..

@mcastel @mandrl Yeah. I wouldn't buy Apple hardware for Linux either, but in my case the MBP wasn't in full use, so I thought it was better to use it as a real work machine instead of just laying around and looking cool :)

I haven't bought a new laptop/desktop computer for years so I'm not sure, how easy it would be to buy a fully Linux supported and good comp for a reasonable price? Probably something with Intel chipset except for that Poulsbo crap... The closed Nvidia driver seems to work fine with MBP, even when suspending to ram.