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simison said

simison  

Social media - now what?!

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simison posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

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simison  

(Maria Pienaar)

We are moving from data centric internet to people centric. We are not anymore just dumbing data to online.

  • Companies don't anymore have control over their brand @ online communities
  • People are more involved to marcheting

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

visualradio  

@simison I do completely agree, but still many corps live in the illusion of being in control. CRM is now reversed. It's the customer who is in the driving seat - not the marketing director or CEO.

visualradio commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

telegraph article: google is not seen as a platform anymore? twitter and fb are.

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

simison  

Most succesfull open source companies (eg MySQL) understood the value of internet and communities.

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

emerging business models. move from "total customer value" to "network value of customer"

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

simison  

How measure social reputation? How is it valuable?

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

I did some experiments with calculation of topic-based expertise and reputation from different social networks. Might be a useful project to dig up from mothballs

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

Next up is Ido Guy from IBM Haifa talking about recommender systems. Last year I gave a talk related to this: making web services smarter with APML

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

simison  

It's all about users. Websites require people to create their contents and environment.

Case: delicious - all about people's content. Every user is doing something small for themselfs, but after thousands of people do that - it finaly becomes to one big tagged Internet.

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

Hehe, all speakers mention Jaiku because the conference is in Finland. Come on, give the corpse a rest already! :-P

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

del.icio.us is kind of folksonomy

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

del.icio.us is kind of folksonomy

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

delicious folksonomies can be used to enhance search: if a URL is tagged with "ajax" and "tutorial" a lot, then it is probably a very relevant search result on ajax tutorials

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

recommendation systems can make a site more personalized and help to retain users. As I said last year, single-site learning is unlikely enough unless you are amazon or google. That is why we need APML to aggregate collected information on user's interests between web services. Could be connected to OpenID identity

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

you can gather interest data in two ways: explicit (user dugg this item) or implicit (user clicked this link)

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

simison  

a few examples of personalized recommendations:
+ StumblueUpon
+ InSuggest
+ OutBrain
+ YouTube
+ Digg

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

InSuggest provides recommendations about Flickr photos and YouTube videos based on interest data. OutBrain does the same for blogs

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

"Web 3.0 is about recommender systems"

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

simison  

Examples from IBM: Dogear - delicious for enterprises, see screenshot: http://domino.watson.ibm.com/cambridg...

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

Fringe allows tagging people with delicous-like folksonomies, so you can look up people based on expertise. Actually, we did a similar feature for OpenPSA integrating also their schedule so you can assign tasks more easily

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

SaND social networks and discovery. REST API for querying social network data in XML. People-documents-tags.

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

simison  

Personalised search

Google uses these without people noticing it? Location & language.

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

simison  

Questions:

Q: How to boost your visibility in recommendations?
A: Kinda same ways how you do it in searches, but it's just much more difficult.

Q: How about finding recommendations based on another services, than yours?
A: This is relative question. This kind of data is mostly public and not behind passwords. Why don't we have these things yet?

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

recommender systems can not only be used for lifting relevant items, but also to filter out uninteresting items and spam

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

@simison google me and "apml", I've done some work in the area of aggregating and using interest data

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

Teemu Arina on the real-time economy

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

Cybersyn project, giving power to the people in 70s communist Chile, mapped processes managed by computer systems

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

DanieleBeta  

Probably both in-control and not-in-control aren't visible, we are adapting to something more "socialist" as someone, american, define it, net and collaboration centric, more respectful also? So, I don't see any measure and recommendation system well.. Qaiku rocks but I still can't write a document with @mcastel..

DanieleBeta commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

"self-organized systems must be always alive and without finalizing, since conclusion is another name for death" - Stafford Beer

In cybernetic paradigm organization is bottom-up people-driven. "Organic enterprise". People are complex adaptive systems, not cogs in a machine. SAP and other systems try to stagnate an organization, reducing its ability to react to changes

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

silner  

@DanieleBeta So you're moving in the direction of collaboration? That's really interesting. I only see a limited set of features in #gwibber

silner commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

bergie  

Network-based nanocorporations are emerging. But you still need management as somebody has to have the courage to make guesses and take risks

bergie commented on posted to #seminaarikannu Hotel Rosendahl, Tampere, Finland 01.10.2009 (en)

DanieleBeta  

@silner Unfortunately I don't know gwibber. Just thinking the change require translators..

DanieleBeta commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

DanieleBeta  

I personally still don't see measure and recommendation systems something so so democratic, if you mean them as management instruments.. Probably I could leave this part of the social thing. Every context? Probably yes.

DanieleBeta commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

DanieleBeta  

an other interesting focused collaborative platform is what I see coming out on Zooomr.. but I still can't edit pictures..

DanieleBeta commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 01.10.2009 (en)

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