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troppone  

MindTrek - "Culture of Creativity: Enriching Interaction" - Pekka Himanen

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troppone posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

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troppone  

what do we actually use creativity for? what does it serve? video shown

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

ekurvine  

dropped many names

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Dignity Day, Open Forum Davos

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

@ekurvine Michael Douglas, Desmond Tutu at least...

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

http://www.globaldignity.org

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

ekurvine  

D Tutu: "god created few perfect people, the rest were right-handed"

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

ekurvine  

how to use our creativity to solve biggest challenges of our time?

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

which are

Clean (climate change)
Care (welfare society 2.0)
Culture

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

ekurvine  

challenges are (business) opportunities

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Open innovation culture mentioned, research done with M.Castells
Physical concentrations do matter.

The world's not flat, it's spiky

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

Maps from Florida & Gulden presented (economy, innovation, science graphs)

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Educated creative people
Culture of enrichment (e.g. VC)
Culture of creativity (incl. failing acceptance)

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

Kusti  

I wonder why there seems to be no significant scientific centers In japan even when it was the most important center of innovation.

Kusti commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Himanen mentions "cosmos theory" while introducing Standford & silicon valley

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Cosmos theory: whenever people are excited about something, the cosmos will send along superscpetical people who say it ain't gonna happen

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

ekurvine  

i wonder if most VC's invest in companies within driving distance from their office, why do we talk about GLOBAL VC?

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Emotional energy mentioned, this is one reason why we still need physical, not just virtual collaboration

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

microprocessor was invented by a bunch of drunk engineers

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

Gnomet  

"How effective would it have been if Martin Luther King sent his famous speach to people by email?"

Gnomet commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

silicon valley is "GLOCAL". Local, but strong links to Israel, Bengaluru, Taiwan, Beijing

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

visualradio  

@troppone "Drunk engineers" helps me to understand the innovativeness of Finns ;) That's why speak about chemistry when building teams and organizations.

visualradio commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Stanford = Engineering + business + design...but NOW social sciences becoming more important

"where can we be a spike" is the question?

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

Gnomet  

engineering+busines+design=A?

Gnomet commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

ekurvine  

@troppone paranormaali-ilmiöitä, energiakenttiä ja maasäteilyä.. ;)

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

visualradio  

@ekurvine New Age ;)

visualradio commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Tampere is agile! Strong humanity and social science research.
This is missing from other places!

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

@troppone i wonder what the strong links are. to my understanding money does not travel very far.

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

quantity of people does not decide where innovation comes from!

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

e.g. Athens was just the size of Lahti

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

more like the "amount of enriching interaction" that matters!

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

touqo  

"I have nothing against Lahti, it is a great sports city."

touqo commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Research questions:

How to innovativelu combine design & art with mobile tech?

What social factors are driving the social web.

How to create an experience people want? How to create a community people want to belong to?

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

"Feel" and "usability" important selection criteria.

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

ekurvine  

luotan siihen,että tampere ottaa kopin noista kyssäreistä.

hoitakaa homma ja kertokaa meille helsinkiläisillekin..

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Provocations...

Artistic people needed in decision-making positions, not just involved

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

(this is a failure by many companies!!!)

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

Kusti  

Himanen seems to practically be dissing Nokia and praising Apple. Well, he's not alone..

Kusti commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

Nokia should make imaginative phones, even at loss. Like fashion.

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

ekurvine  

imo pekka ei ole vahvimmillaan näissä implications for design jutuissa.

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

troppone  

(this is a failure by many companies!!!)

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

my guess is that marketing dept named n800, e71 etc, not engineers.

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

simison  

check your language settings

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

Creativity > community of enrichment > confidence (vs. fear)

When in fear, you always naturally play safe.

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (fi)

Gnomet  

Also true about hurry. When you don't have much time, you play safe. (You also get the things done faster usually, but there is less space and time for innovations.)

Gnomet commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

Kusti  

Back to the stuff Pekka knows best :) seen this video probably 10 times. @ekurvine i agree, design stuff is not really his turf. Obviously good points, but I think Messina and Engeström were a step ahead when talking about openness and apple's problems with that.

The next winner will be the one who combines engineering, business and design with openness and sustainable development.

Kusti commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

Jazz is overused as a metaphor imho. Need a Gen Y example! E.g. What's the name of that one guy,,,Girltalk. Something like that is needed to get the message through.

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

one more thing...we need the DREAM

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

Kusti  

@troppone how about himanen's regular guest, Ville valo? :)

Kusti commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

The answers are right ahead of us - BUT we need to think about the right questions!

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

tereensio  

And for the dream we need the right questions

tereensio commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

We're analyzing Beethoven, and the culture of enrichment

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

hmmm. Where's the social element...?! :)

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

is he saying we should proceed from general concept towards details?

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

simison  

Getting lost here...

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

@troppone is social the different themes that you combine?

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

Gnomet  

Beethoven was not probably using open innovation.. But maybe we can get to high results by making innovating social, even if we are not geniuses as single persons. :)

Gnomet commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

@simison you need to stand up now and announce your ignorance ;)

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

@ekurvine, not imho. it's not social. it is interaction though

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

ekurvine  

my dream is to make it to the next payday

ekurvine commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

simison  

@ekurvine: just too much parrrtying last night ;-)

simison commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

troppone  

@ekurvine why don't you dream of not having to worry about the next payday? :)

troppone commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 02.10.2009 (en)

jtunkelo  

is there a video stashed away somewhere of this?

jtunkelo commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 03.10.2009 (en)

touqo  

@jtunkelo here's a recap with a bit of analysis. :-) http://www.andreavascellari.com/?p=31...

touqo commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 04.10.2009 (en)

visualradio  

I think, Pekka hit the nail, social media is "lost in the translation" at least in Finland.

visualradio commented on posted to #seminaarikannu 06.10.2009 (en)

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