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Three key questions: to end with
* What are the atomic forces of motivation?
* Is the “participation divide” shallow or deep
* When is it helpful to formalize norms?

Nice examples too..gotta add later...

There are very few (or none) truly online communities, almost all groups eventually meet up face to face

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Keynote1

Clay Shirky

Elizabeth Churchill: from upper case traditional (W)ork -> lower case (w)ork
Curious problem: usability on MSN is really high, but people don't use the site?
- nobody asked the usability test users if they "wanted to do the tasks"
- usability: keep your job
- culture of requirement and culture of option collided
Questions around motivation are the most interesting
Yochai Benkler: "Loosely coupled systems require motivated actors"
- Understanding that motivation is one of the biggest framing problems
Gnarlykitty blog:
- post about "Flick fishing" iphone app
- why post this? because my friends like it
- Coup in Thailand: one of the first people to post photos about the event
- couple of days ago: Hello Kitty photo
- One of the best clarifying posts: "Life like this" - check it out
- Basically told the new readers to buzz off
Case: Taj Mahal
- Arthur Gugick: rebuild in lego (with the pool)
- done also thousands of other pieces
- Lego produced it's own, but doesn't compare
- amateur looks professional, professional looks amateurish
Case: wood bricks 1970
- asked students to assemble different forms (for free)
- half of students: we're going to pay you (extrinsic motivation)
- half of students: we're not going to pay you
- once you pay people, it drains intristic motivation
Back to Lego
- not: why are people working for free?
- tons of info about legos, this is the gap between intristic and extrinsic motivation
It didn't spread with digital devices, it spread with digital networks!
- MOCpages connects Lego freaks

Culture

f.ex. punctual culture vs. non-punctual culture
Culture can form a coordinating role
fanfiction.net
- in the beginning, when starting a fan fiction story ab Harry Potter all add a mock disclaimer
- legally intert, but it is a tradition
Case: Cassandra Claire's Plagiarism
- was writing fan fiction, accused of plagiarism
- according to the case, was accused of making profit??
- community thinks: (story) universe cannot be owned, but writing can
- writing is divided into two domains: domain of love and domain of money, which cannot be crossed
Case: Josh Groban
- fans ("Grobanites"): teen age girls and their grandmothers
- not possible to use traditional media
- fans want to buy him a b-day present for 21's, make a donation in his name
- this becomes a tradition, once they built a web site for it, the response was huge
- online-fundraising becomes a legal question, not a precedent
- "Josh Groban" foundation is formed, but fans differ from that "Grobanites for Charity"
Case: A paper about legal psychology
- 10 daycare centres, and observed pick-up time
- late-comers are a problem, added a fine
- late pick-ups immediately went up, why??
- there were already penalties, but not specified, once it was externalised (as a fee), it removed the social penalty
- once the fine was removed, the culture stayed
Motivation: Social penalties/awards

Case Pluto Wikipedia page
- 5000+ edits, 2500+ users, average: 2,49
- "Pluto's 1st Neighborhoos"
1. Start with every probable human editor,
2. List every other article they have created
3. List all the other articles they have edited
= planets, wikipedia, george w, adolf hitler
1. Start
2. List every other article they have edited a) at least 3 time
3. List all the other articles they have edited
= nothing but planets
- there are firefighters, who rush to places where there is a conflict

3 questions

1. What are the atomic forces of motivation?
- there are tons of motivational theories
- no real motivational literature, because it's so spread out
- write down your assumptions, to start the conversation
- research field: p2p motivation?
2. Is the "participation divide" shallow or deep?
- only 13% wikipedia contributors are women - not good for quality
- what if wikipedia got a stronger "discussion" area?
3. When is it helpful to formalize norms?
- no rules for when to write down the rules in internet social action?

Questions

1. About participation divide
- is the power law inevitable? (in small-world networks)
- are people choosing to segragate themselves into specific groups online?
- should the place be self-segragating? decided by the community
2. In enterprise software, should people be paid to contribute?
- check out "Stack Overflow"
3. Talking in loosely-coupled groups is solving the problem of distributed value division
- can companies solve their problems by allowing discussion?
- talking seems to be a function of caring
- if you can easily contribute, community starts to form
4. Is there a relationship between "lower case work" and play
- absolutely: commitment to the group
5. What are the limitations of intrisic motivation?
- there are people interested in doing sciences "citizen scientists"
- they are only collecting data, how can we get over this?
- "There is still going to be a peer-review in the upstream"
- bridge the gap from treating citizen scientists as a source for data to treating groups...
6. Should we concentrate in contextual phenomena, not general model of motivation?
- social context matters!
- There is no such thing as an on-line community. Even open-source communities meet f2f!
- maybe some of the special cases provide some pointer to a general framework
- what's the transition from small loosely-coupled groups towards large structured communities
7. Fred Turner
- Burning man? The big (W)ork being boring provides a motivation for (w)ork

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